Massman Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 I cant get my screenshot as verification screenshot. Tried to edit after first (automatic submission) but still no go..My submission: http://hwbot.org/submission/3050727_ Fixed! Sorry for the delay. :celebration: Quote
Massman Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 admin !!!!!!!!!!!!!! what the hell is going on ;; i cant upload my score !!!!!! It's fixed Quote
Doug2507 Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Can I get clarification on dual core gpu for 06? Rules state "core/(s)" implying plural ok. Specifically asking for 295.... If if not, why? Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted December 12, 2015 Crew Posted December 12, 2015 it states ONE video core(s), probably a bad copy paste from previous competitions... Otherwise it would have stated one videocard Quote
Massman Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 Can I get clarification on dual core gpu for 06? Rules state "core/(s)" implying plural ok. Specifically asking for 295.... If if not, why? Only single GPU graphics cards are allowed. No particular reason why ... it's just the competition rule Quote
TASOS Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 It's fixed If you're trying to submit an xtu result through the hwbot page (and not through ocsports) you dont have the option tab for a verification photo (you cant participate in CC 2015). I am almost certain it's been reported in earlier competitions too. Quote
Taloken Posted December 14, 2015 Posted December 14, 2015 Hi ^^ Cool-T submitted a 3DM06 result, but as it's not his best, it shows "no points" and is not added in our ranking : http://hwbot.org/submission/3062030_ Can it be solved or does he have to beat his best score ? (Yeah i know, 0.1 HWP, but it's purely for the psychological goal to have scores as most as possible) Quote
BenchBros Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Retail hardware only, engineering samples not allowed. Hardware must be launched before the start of the competition. Samsung B-DIE YES or NO? Quote
Guest Digg_de Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Hi ^^ Cool-T submitted a 3DM06 result, but as it's not his best, it shows "no points" and is not added in our ranking : http://hwbot.org/submission/3062030_ Can it be solved or does he have to beat his best score ? (Yeah i know, 0.1 HWP, but it's purely for the psychological goal to have scores as most as possible) Beat or delete..yes. Quote
Rauf Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Ranking for stage 4 is not correct it seems. Rules says ranking is based on average, but it is actually based on number of scores, then average. I know some competitions are meant to be this way but that is not logical for this stage. Average across five submissions, no score=0 points for that submission. It really hurts the teams which have no 1 core CPU... Quote
ObscureParadox Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Ranking for stage 4 is not correct it seems. Rules says ranking is based on average, but it is actually based on number of scores, then average. I know some competitions are meant to be this way but that is not logical for this stage. Average across five submissions, no score=0 points for that submission. It really hurts the teams which have no 1 core CPU... I know where you're getting at but it is logical the way it is. Otherwise you could have a team like Australia just have the 8 core WR XTU score and no others, their average would be unbeatable then and a team with all 5 scores would naturally have a lower average. Quote
phobosq Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Samsung B-DIE YES or NO? following that - AFR yes or no? IMHO you couldn't have retail AFR before December Quote
Rauf Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 I know where you're getting at but it is logical the way it is. Otherwise you could have a team like Australia just have the 8 core WR XTU score and no others, their average would be unbeatable then and a team with all 5 scores would naturally have a lower average. No, 3200~/5 is not better than 2800+2200 etc/5...Always divide by maximum number of scores and there will be no problem. Quote
Massman Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Just a quick message: Christian, Xyala and myself are all on the road at the moment so it might take a bit longer to respond to questions and moderation issues. Good luck everyone! Quote
phobosq Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 No, 3200~/5 is not better than 2800+2200 etc/5...Always divide by maximum number of scores and there will be no problem. But that's exactly the idea of penalty for not running all required core counts - divide by 5 and done. Quote
I.nfraR.ed Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) Yes, but if you favor number of submissions instead of average score, then your team could be dragged behind even if your average score is higher than the av score of a team with full set of submissions. For example in Stage 3 Italy with a higher average score is behind Belgium which in turn has the full set of subs, but lower average score. IMO, it should be the other way around. You can't win with a single WR score anyway, because average will be very low with 4 zeros. Or in XTU stage Sweden should be ranked 5th, not 9th in my opinion. However it had always been like that in CountryCups, taking away even the slightest chance for smaller countries which can't get the full set of scores. Which is wrong to me. Edited December 15, 2015 by I.nfraR.ed Quote
Marquzz Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 yes, it's hard as it is to get people to compete in country cup, less making it more difficult and complicated. Another thing, can you PLEASE stop it with different end dates for stages. Quote
xxbassplayerxx Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Different end dates kills the comp... Why is it ended so early before the end of the month? Benching over the holidays is completely ruled out... Quote
zeropluszero Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 Country cup, the comp you hate to love. MassmanDealWithIt.gif Quote
Rasparthe Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 But that's exactly the idea of penalty for not running all required core counts - divide by 5 and done. yes, it's hard as it is to get people to compete in country cup, less making it more difficult and complicated. Another thing, can you PLEASE stop it with different end dates for stages. Like you I wish the end dates would be the same, very annoying. I think its actually easier to get people to compete with it set up the way it is. If its just an average then you will have teams that can just skip something like 1 core XTU because they have such high WR 8 core scores, if your WR 8 core is high enough maybe even skip a 2core XTU and still be competitive. Half the idea is to promote and gather your country mates and get it done. Those guys that don't have the 8 core hardware can actually contribute, and in fact, you need them, that fancy 8 core WR will get beat by a country that organizes 5 air scores across all the cores. How much motivation is there to find someone to get a 1 core score if you can just use a bigger 8 core? I always assumed it was a competition to determine the best country of overclockers, not which country has a couple of WR benchers. If that is the competition that is wanted, believe me, take out the requirement that you can only submit once a stage, that would have helped us a ton.... Quote
FatBoyNotSoSlim Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 (edited) Ranking for stage 4 is not correct it seems. Rules says ranking is based on average, but it is actually based on number of scores, then average. I know some competitions are meant to be this way but that is not logical for this stage. Average across five submissions, no score=0 points for that submission. It really hurts the teams which have no 1 core CPU... But it's always been about getting hardware for every stage and sub Stage (1/2/4/6/8core cpu etc) in order to ensure the best score possible. As for teams not having a 1 core cpu.... I didn't have one either, I paid up the aud$80 for one, to never be used again. Others could have done the same, plenty were on ebay for the whole competition. Edited December 15, 2015 by FatBoyNotSoSlim Quote
I.nfraR.ed Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 If you do the math, then you will see you really need high-sky 8-cores WR. To compensate 80-100 points for the missing single core sub you will have to add that to your other scores. If they are not high enough you will still loose. How high should be your 8-cores WR? It should be a lot higher than what Aussies have at the moment assuming their other scores are mediocre. And if all 4 scores are equally high (in their respective category), then they can win either way. Ruling out the 1-core submission does not change much. It only gives chances to smaller countries that can't find anyone using single core cpu to bench for them. You can't skip the 2xXTU, just no way to compensate 700 points more. Well, if you don't submit with 6 or 4 cores, then you're not gonna win, because you have to compensate 2000-3000 points which is impossible. I still think the competition will be balanced enough. You will still need full set of scores to secure your first position. It can't happen with just one WR and mediocre 3 other scores. But of course, this is just my point of view. Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted December 15, 2015 Crew Posted December 15, 2015 Yes, but if you favor number of submissions instead of average score, then your team could be dragged behind even if your average score is higher than the av score of a team with full set of submissions..... However it had always been like that in CountryCups, taking away even the slightest chance for smaller countries which can't get the full set of scores. Which is wrong to me. Comon 5 scores should be doable for most countries, even a nitwit country as Belgium can do it. Too bad our Celeron CPU has still not arrived, this after ordering it about 3 weeks ago lol so we get beaten by lesser scores, but they have a full set. That's the way it is and the only way to keep it more balanced in my book. Now Stage 1 will be impossible for us to complete as we can get max 6-7 scores in as our french speaking OCers have close to no interest in chiming in... It is all about having fun, people tend to take it too serious... this is the cheapest CC so far for Belgium lol. We had most of the gear besides the Celeron CPU and only used 65L of LN2 Quote
lanbonden Posted December 15, 2015 Posted December 15, 2015 But it's always been about getting hardware for every stage and sub Stage (1/2/4/6/8core cpu etc) in order to ensure the best score possible. As for teams not having a 1 core cpu.... I didn't have one either, I paid up the aud$80 for one, to never be used again. Others could have done the same, plenty were on ebay for the whole competition. Dont think your the only one buying that useless CPU just for the competition, ohh how I wish the 1 core that we in Sweden bought actualy worked Quote
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