I.nfraR.ed Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Yes, but in our case we don't even have half the participants required. Noone is interested and you can see the activity throughout the year. Not only population, but also GDP plays a big role in this. But that's the rules of the game and it is the same in every sport. I'm not completely against the current way of doing it. Nothing is just black or white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phobosq Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Yes, but in our case we don't even have half the participants required.Noone is interested and you can see the activity throughout the year. Not only population, but also GDP plays a big role in this. But that's the rules of the game and it is the same in every sport. I'm not completely against the current way of doing it. Nothing is just black or white. We also had plans to compete in all stages, but it didn't work as expected. It's a pity, because this year it wasn't so difficult to participate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rauf Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 But it's always been about getting hardware for every stage and sub Stage (1/2/4/6/8core cpu etc) in order to ensure the best score possible. As for teams not having a 1 core cpu.... I didn't have one either, I paid up the aud$80 for one, to never be used again. Others could have done the same, plenty were on ebay for the whole competition. Yes, buying boring, useless hardware that doesn't even add significantly to the team average is a good idea for a competition... But if hwbot wants it this way, then thats fine. But state it in the rules! Is it the same case for stage 1? Nine 49.9p subs gets beaten by ten 0.1p subs? Come on... Save us the money for hardware and ln2 next time and let us know about the rules in advance so we can know if there is a point in competing or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.nfraR.ed Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 I don't mean it is boring to bench cheap and useless hardware. That was not my point. I mostly bench this type of 'junk' myself anyway, but really agree with that last point about 10x0.1pt beat 9 top scores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasparthe Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 It doesn't work that way in the first stage, its simply an accumulation of points, only in Stage 2, 3, and 4 force you to gather subs in each of the categories. There are always going to be things that are unfair to one set of overclockers or another. Hell for that matter, this Country Cup was entirely to modern for me. I have no interest in competing against binned 6.4Ghz Skylake processors but those are the rules so all I could do was bear down and get the best done we can. Canada came in 22nd last year, all I was hoping that through organization and stupid amounts of harrassment to other Canadians overclockers we might crack top 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rauf Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 It doesn't work that way in the first stage, its simply an accumulation of points, only in Stage 2, 3, and 4 force you to gather subs in each of the categories. There are always going to be things that are unfair to one set of overclockers or another. Yes, the first stage is why I actually thought that the other stages would be a true average based ranking as well. It also says so in the rules... Only people who have been here a long time can suspect that it is first number of submissions and then average. This is the only major problem with hwbot in my opinion. The competitions are always unclear to say the least when it comes to rules. The rules are updated, changed, new rules are added. It is hard to find the new rules because they are buried somewhere deep down in a thread with 100 replies. Rankings are not working correctly in the beginning etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenchBros Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Just a quick message: Christian, Xyala and myself are all on the road at the moment so it might take a bit longer to respond to questions and moderation issues. So maybe its better not to bench geekbench and IGP stage with B-DIE... just to be safe... B-DIE based kits were listed from Nov 12th in Germany but were not available, no idea if availability was better in other countries before Nov 1st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Island Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 if anyone is around can someone please check to see why this isn't added to USA total, thanks. http://hwbot.org/submission/3064018_strong_island_3dmark06_geforce_8800_gts_512_mb_49.8_hardware_points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtsurfer Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 if anyone is around can someone please check to see why this isn't added to USA total, thanks. http://hwbot.org/submission/3064018_strong_island_3dmark06_geforce_8800_gts_512_mb_49.8_hardware_points Majority of mod staff appears to be busy with HOT. Try resubmitting from the OC E-sports page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strong Island Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Majority of mod staff appears to be busy with HOT.Try resubmitting from the OC E-sports page. should I delete it first or just re-submit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtsurfer Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 should I delete it first or just re-submit Delete & resubmit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 All good, USA in fourth place. Nice benching guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TASOS Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Team USA Both scores should be moved to proper categories. HD-4600 http://hwbot.org/submission/3062007_metalracer_3dmark___fire_strike_intel_hd_graphics_1139_marks/ HD-530 http://hwbot.org/submission/3061789_jpmboy_3dmark___fire_strike_intel_hd_graphics_1365_marks/ Now they are both at HD Graphics category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted December 17, 2015 Crew Share Posted December 17, 2015 Edited the USA scores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasparthe Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Can one of the mods look into why this sub didn't overtake our DDR3 score? Sticky previous one? http://hwbot.org/submission/3064542 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phobosq Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Same as above - for Geekbench for Poland Nifir has 5494 points with http://hwbot.org/submission/3064263_ but in competition still 4338 is valid for DDR3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzk Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Both of you need to enter the Memory type (DDR, DDR2, DDR3...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phobosq Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Thanks, it helped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luebke Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 congrats to australia for wining the cup... again but it´s a pity that there is no exciting fight for final stage on 20th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob(nz) Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 You know the best teams in the world never give up - even when they are down. There is always more to play for.....this is what makes great teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted December 17, 2015 Administrators Share Posted December 17, 2015 I just saw cc is more or less over, missed it completely this year - some great results, grats to the winners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luebke Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 @bob\(nz\): on cc16 we´ll meet again and i hope there will be more stages for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasparthe Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I think when you take in to consideration the sandbag Stage 1 results that Australia is holding, it is over. I can't believe that they trusted the engine enough to submit their Stage 2 and 3 results in the last hour. Now that is brave. Can't wait for next year! Love these comps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob(nz) Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 @bob\(nz\): on cc16 we´ll meet again and i hope there will be more stages for me As long as I am still breathing - I will be in - and we will meet again - hahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob(nz) Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 I think when you take in to consideration the sandbag Stage 1 results that Australia is holding, it is over. I can't believe that they trusted the engine enough to submit their Stage 2 and 3 results in the last hour. Now that is brave. Can't wait for next year! Love these comps! See you guys always assume we are sandbagging - that's the problem. There were plenty of us still benching with 30 mins to go - it aint over till its over..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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