Administrators websmile Posted January 15, 2019 Administrators Posted January 15, 2019 Hmm, Apex XI is available in europe, you can order and get the board in two days in germany - and I tested it and it is quite impressive 1 1 Quote
gkmltd Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 4 hours ago, websmile said: Hmm, Apex XI is available in europe, you can order and get the board in two days in germany - and I tested it and it is quite impressive link please? Quote
Doc.Brown Posted January 16, 2019 Posted January 16, 2019 On 12/25/2018 at 8:58 PM, Alex@ro said: The new Geekbench standard for B-die DDR4-4860 14-14-14-28-2T all air . Voltage tolerance is needed for sticks, DDR4-4800+ requires 2.00V on this particular set. For comparison, at same voltage and temperature the kit does DDR4-4260 12-12-12 but as always YMMV When dealing with 7F code trcd is too tight, on my setup 1T is good for 4600, over 2T is needed. Use maximus tweak1, tcwl 14 twrrd_sg 26 twrrd_dg 20, rest similar to standard 4000C12 more or less personal tweaking. When air or water use manual system agent 1.40-1.50 or more depending on imc, auto is 1.70 for 4800 and you might not feel safe Forgot to post mine with random 4133 retail kit ? 1 Quote
Administrators websmile Posted January 16, 2019 Administrators Posted January 16, 2019 Can it do 4266c12? Or 4133? Quote
Doc.Brown Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 16 hours ago, websmile said: Can it do 4266c12? Or 4133? 4133 is ok but no boot at 4200/4266 with different secondary and tertiary 1 Quote
Doc.Brown Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 Some numbers comparison between 4112C12-1t vs. 4772C14-2t @websmile 3 1 Quote
Administrators websmile Posted January 17, 2019 Administrators Posted January 17, 2019 Doesnt it make you suspicious you have 2050 and 9k, and when you go to 2110 you have maybe 9500 at best at same timings, which is around 500 more, and that when you go from 2390 to 2450 you suddenly have around 10400? which is above 1k more even though you gained alot less frequency percentual and same in real frequency?? Not my business anymore after I quit benching but I think this is quite obvious to see together with other funny things, especially when you know benchmarks usually have baselines and it is percetage above baseline gain that makes the results. 1 Quote
Members GeorgeStorm Posted January 17, 2019 Members Posted January 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, websmile said: Doesnt it make you suspicious you have 2050 and 9k, and when you go to 2110 you have maybe 9500 at best at same timings, which is around 500 more, and that when you go from 2390 to 2450 you suddenly have around 10400? which is above 1k more even though you gained alot less frequency percentual and same in real frequency?? Not my business anymore after I quit benching but I think this is quite obvious to see together with other funny things, especially when you know benchmarks usually have baselines and it is percetage above baseline gain that makes the results. I thought it was because one of the gb3 subtests massively favours bandwidth, and is weighed heavily enough in the overall score that pushing that high gives you a better score overall even if you lose score in other subtests? (but I could be wrong as I've not tested myself) 2 Quote
Administrators websmile Posted January 17, 2019 Administrators Posted January 17, 2019 The mem sream copy value explodes - but only at multicore, it is more or less same at single core at 4133c12 vs 4800c14. This is what makes me a bit nervous, but tbh for me it is a solely academical problem because gb3 is still vlauable tool for me to test memory stability for benching, results do not matter on this P.S. Nearly forgot, @Doc.Brown many thanks for the spi32m test, very interesting 2 Quote
Doc.Brown Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 Well it's not my memory profile for 10k4 GB3 score on the 4772C14 screen,for me it's like George says an bandwidth story for this memory test.Perhaps it could be interesting to only compare GB3 and Aida memory test by 200mhz steps to see the impact of the bandwidth on both and if it scale the same ... don't know 1 Quote
Alex@ro Posted January 18, 2019 Author Posted January 18, 2019 I noticed the same, 4800c14 slower than 4133 c12 in everything except geekbench. Comparing screenshots it looks like the latency is the only thing better at tight timings therefore it should have the most importance for physics,32m etc 1 Quote
ps000000 Posted January 20, 2019 Posted January 20, 2019 Does Maximus XI gene (Z390) can overclock ddr4 to more MHz than Maximus X apex (Z370) ? (both pair with the same 9900K cpu and same g.skill ram stick.) 1 Quote
miker2ka Posted January 22, 2019 Posted January 22, 2019 Can anyone who has Apex XI tell us the VRM configuration ? Quote
suzuki Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 0802 bios it’s really good with A1 Layout. Anyone else tryed it ? 2 Quote
chispy Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 Has anyone got any idea how to eliminate cold bug and cold boot bug on 9900k on Maximus Gene XI ? I spent 35L of LN2 yesterday and got me max oc of 6.1Ghz @ 1.58v on my 9900k , but this cpu 9900k seems that have a nasty cold bug exactly at -112c and also a cold boot bug at -89c on MGeneXI on Bios 0057. LN2 mode enable and also the RSVD switch. I have tried everything possible but the cold bug wont go away : tried absolutely every range of voltages everywhere trying to figure it out but i could never find the voltages to get rid of the cold bug. Any idea or guidance/help will be greatly appreciate it @Alex@ro . Kind Regards: Angelo 1 Quote
Administrators websmile Posted January 31, 2019 Administrators Posted January 31, 2019 Is there any chance the 4200 divider on memory will work c12 in the future? I tested this with two different cpus (8086k and 8600k), different settings and it did not work on apex xi, plus I talked to a couple of people using gene with same problem. Tested with bios 0231 and also latest BIOS from asus website, it worked 2 or 3 time out of 100 tries and that simply is not enough for such a good oc board 1 Quote
P5ych0 Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 try to run without RSVD and set all voltages manually. BIOS 0057 seems to be a little buggy. i tried different cpus on 0057, one does have a bad CBB from -70 at retry, Bios 0043 works slighly better, same CPU comes back at -170 and runs a few Mhz higher in the top 1 Quote
bigblock990 Posted January 31, 2019 Posted January 31, 2019 Does anyone have an ETA for XI Apex availability in USA? 1 Quote
richiec77 Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 Caseking shows an availability date of Feb 5th, 2019. Maybe something will pop up stateside around that time. 1 Quote
suzuki Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 Any difference in voltage used for same freq on Gene vs Apex ? Quote
Radi Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 12 hours ago, bigblock990 said: Does anyone have an ETA for XI Apex availability in USA? send me a z390 dark from us as a gift and i send you an xi apex as a gift 1 1 Quote
Telstar Posted February 1, 2019 Posted February 1, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 5:24 AM, TaPaKaH said: https://geizhals.de/a1906336.html Prices are pretty good too, only 50 bucks more than the Gene and it has stronger vrm and dual bios. Quote
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