Crew Leeghoofd Posted November 30, 2020 Author Crew Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Vinster said: What do the X's in parentheses mean (X) ? Vin As soon they get out of beta this is how the points will be attributed (in beta state you "normally" don't receive any points) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxinite Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, keeph8n said: Â Reference Frequency should do globals no? While I might be slightly biased on this , it would be nice. As we know CPU-z can be bugged with validation frequencies, but that is also true for core clock and mem clock. Edited November 30, 2020 by Noxinite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keeph8n Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Noxinite said: While I might be slightly biased on this , it would be nice. As we know CPU-z can be bugged with validation frequencies, but that is also true for core clock and mem clock. true, always nice to see Ref Freq apart of comps and people pulling out the old dogs for WR runs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ground Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, keeph8n said: true, always nice to see Ref Freq apart of comps and people pulling out the old dogs for WR runs I still wish platform records were worth something as well  2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unityofsaints Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 5 hours ago, ground1556 said: I still wish platform records were worth something as well  They are in our hearts ? Just put them in your profile like I do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted December 4, 2020 Author Crew Share Posted December 4, 2020 some changes: PCMARK04/05 will no longer get points PCMARK10 will be the Express version, less long to run so more users might chime in on the action Y-cruncher 25M will be removed Cinebench R23 will be used during Pro OC for evaluation, one render only guarded by BenchMate  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 I agree with removing 25m, it's too fast, kinda like super pi 16k. Can we add the 2.5b preset? 1b is getting too fast on high core count, talking under 10s and it becomes more about optimizing thread spawning and less about oc. Dunno if 2.5b should have globals tho cause it uses over 16gb of ram iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUGGER Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 If people cannot handle the bench duration you shouldn't play. You are chopping off everything PCM10 is good for and it should be weighing the GPU, memory, and SSD in the score and not just the CPU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted December 5, 2020 Author Crew Share Posted December 5, 2020 Well if we go for the Express it doesn't take that long Charles. Maybe a better idea to set globals for the shorter run. Now  this would imply users need to get a key though. Fingers crossed users will leave the benchmark alone and just sets clocks and run it for what it was designed for... and not start stupid stuff as with previous versions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rauf Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Leeghoofd said: Fingers crossed users will leave the benchmark alone and just sets clocks and run it for what it was designed for... and not start stupid stuff as with previous versions. Challenge accepted! ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_n00b Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 I haven't tested PCMark10 for competitive benchmarking. So far, it seems the benchmark doesn't scale linearly to cpu core number like Cinebench/Geekbench though. so it would be interesting to see what kind of config/hardware will scale. (and I'm personally hoping the benchmark is secure enough from massive software tweaking and put more emphasis to hardware/setups) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted December 6, 2020 Author Crew Share Posted December 6, 2020 Thing is if we can run it out of the box without messing with encoders, browser versions,.  we can show what a hardware overclock can mean for a setup. If we start fooling around we will again shoot ourselves in the foot. Just run the benchmark with more mhz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShrimpBrime Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: Thing is if we can run it out of the box without messing with encoders, browser versions,.  we can show what a hardware overclock can mean for a setup. If we start fooling around we will again shoot ourselves in the foot. Just run the benchmark with more mhz Why are we removing points from legacy yet again? That is the passion for some people. Would like to see points stay on 04. I have comp points from 04 submissions. As well as global and team points. Do all the points pertaining to that benchmark get flushed too? Not against it if we can keep the points from old submissions, just not gain any more points. That would be cool. Or if someone wrote a tutorial for this bench, cause I know its a pain in the butt to get running for some people, can we keep it then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythical tech Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 10 hours ago, Lucky_n00b said: (and I'm personally hoping the benchmark is secure enough from massive software tweaking and put more emphasis to hardware/setups) It is not. One piece of software can add 10-15% easily to most scores at least for the demo version I have yet to test the full one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted December 6, 2020 Author Crew Share Posted December 6, 2020 Well let us set this one straight from the start: if someone clearly abused it he will get a ban, hows that for a motivator? Doesn't one get tired of people messing stuff up for the rest. Why can't one just press the run benchmark button like 99% of the users do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythical tech Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) I was referring to ram cache which kind of kills the need for actually good hardware for 1/3 of the bench and is allowed on current pc marks.   Edited to remove confusion Edited December 6, 2020 by Mythical tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Don't beat around the bush, just spit it out. That way it can be nipped in the bud before it becomes an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted December 6, 2020 Author Crew Share Posted December 6, 2020 This benchmark is used world wide by review sites and we can't run it accordingly? How bout to kill OC again in a second... we haven't implemented anything and self destruction mode has been engaged already, big sigh.  Basic rule is: if you don't like it, don't run it... but don't spoil it for those that want to. If one can't resist to mess things up for others, it will be bye bye, nice to have known you 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATA 58 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 o.k all clear Leeghoofd. so I can download PCM10 express since my ADSL is slow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Antinomy Posted December 12, 2020 Crew Share Posted December 12, 2020 Hm, make HWBot Prime great again? As for TestCPU - you mean the good old one? I think it's kind of outdated nowadays. I would keep boints for pre-SSE CPUs only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted December 12, 2020 Author Crew Share Posted December 12, 2020 Latest version, removed TestCPU from the list (but points will still be there, but you can't submit to it anymore) Some other minor changes (in green)    2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinster Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I don't see 7zip in the list any changing it it? Vin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted December 12, 2020 Author Crew Share Posted December 12, 2020 Is that one stable, I pulled Winrar as each version changes the output, like AIDA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yosarianilives Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Leeghoofd said: Is that one stable, I pulled Winrar as each version changes the output, like AIDA 7zip has always been from inside Benchmate so could have mat do version control Suppose it'd be up to mat to add support but can we add 2.5b category for ycruncher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Antinomy Posted December 13, 2020 Crew Share Posted December 13, 2020 14 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: removed TestCPU from the list (but points will still be there, but you can't submit to it anymore) kinda strange to my mind - when UC, Prime, PCMark05 got pulled, they all lost points. But this gives a ranking you can't beat anymore so who got lucky will keep points forever and no way to beat their scores. Am I missing something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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