mllrkllr88 Posted September 15, 2019 Posted September 15, 2019 Going after those gravy dualie points :D How did you find this one? Quote
SparkysAdventure Posted September 15, 2019 Posted September 15, 2019 Oh my god, almost 6.8g R15 on a retail 7350k! Absolutely amazing! Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted September 15, 2019 Crew Posted September 15, 2019 mellow yellow internal team battle Quote
GtiJason Posted September 15, 2019 Posted September 15, 2019 Great score, bet we see BB990 push this to 6.8 Quote
unityofsaints Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) Since Benchmate is known to affect Cinebench scores this needs to go in the dedicated CB15 with BenchMate category imo Edited September 16, 2019 by unityofsaints Quote
rtsurfer Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) Life is unfair. Go on you lucky bugger. Edited September 16, 2019 by rtsurfer Quote
yosarianilives Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 3 hours ago, unityofsaints said: Since Benchmate is known to affect Cinebench scores this needs to go in the dedicated CB15 with BenchMate category imo Correct Quote
GtiJason Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, yosarianilives said: Correct Does it ? Quick n' Dirty comparison of the Top 10 submissions simply based on amount of CB points earned per MHz of freq is showing this. Keep in mind BigBlock990's score is the only one done with BenchMate AND most the lower efficiency subs are old, basically from launch meaning probably didn't run as much as more recent runs to squeeze out that last 0.0001% of perf Efficiency                                     Score Rank      cb per MHz       score   User          Rank      5th   0.1136603773584906   753   Ikki           10th 6th   0.1135628656949897   755   Dancop         9th 9th   0.1132245020218661   756   ale belo         8th 10th  0.1131907308377897   762   funsoul         7th 7th   0.1133928571428571   762   Xtreme Addict   6th 2nd   0.113944817300522    764   Loud           5th 8th   0.1133165456969338   765   rsannino        4th 3rd   0.1137644615840997   767   Luumi          3rd 1st   0.1140650527253824   768   Splave          2nd 4th   0.1136665192392747   771   bigblock990     1st Edited September 16, 2019 by GtiJason Quote
_mat_ Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, unityofsaints said: Since Benchmate is known to affect Cinebench scores this needs to go in the dedicated CB15 with BenchMate category imo This is not true, BenchMate does not change CINEBENCH scoring. CINEBENCH uses timeGetTime() which uses the system's clock interrupt to accumulate time. The time source for the clock interrupt in Windows 8 and 10 is either the LAPIC timer by default or HPET (useplatformclock = true). The LAPIC timer is exactly the same timer as RDTSC, the CPU's timestamp counter. Because timeGetTime() is not precise enough (a timestamp can be skewed by 10 ms for example due to the accumulation and a rude division to be backwards compatible), I decided to use the more precise CPU timestamp instead for CB. This is the same time source, just more precise. The score doesn't really change, but it's more stable. Switching to HPET for the whole system (useplatformclock) would affect the CINEBENCH scoring a lot more. Edited September 16, 2019 by _mat_ Quote
unityofsaints Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 @GtiJason @_mat_ You're both missing the point. I didn't say this particular score was bugged and I didn't say BenchMate actively changes Cinebench scoring. I'm just stating that CB15 with Benchmate constitutes another benchmark, since e.g. it allows Windows 10 while CB15 without Benchmate doesn't. It wouldn't be fair on anyone to mix those two. Quote
bigblock990 Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) Thanks everyone! @unityofsaints You are missing the point. Benchmate is the the way forward. If we require all benches to have a separate category "with benchmate" then what is the point of staying on hwbot? It would make WAY more sense for matt to create his own database, and leave hwbot behind. Also you are incorrect about win10. All skylake and newer intel platforms are legal on any OS with or without benchmate.  Edited September 16, 2019 by bigblock990 Quote
Members GeorgeStorm Posted September 16, 2019 Members Posted September 16, 2019 I believe @unityofsaints is pointing out the current rule only, not saying that in the future benchmate will be integrated with the main category. 1 Quote
Splave Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 remove score and ban bigblock pls and thnx  4 1 Quote
_mat_ Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 2 hours ago, GeorgeStorm said: I believe @unityofsaints is pointing out the current rule only, not saying that in the future benchmate will be integrated with the main category. I believe so too. I think a decision from HWBOT is needed here. Either go with BenchMate or go without. 1 Quote
Achill3uS Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 If this not deserves the 161 global, I dont know what... the floor is drama 1 Quote
Noxinite Posted September 16, 2019 Author Posted September 16, 2019 If we're talking in technicalities then the score is legal for only this category that it was submitted to as their is no validation file from the Benchmate utility. And the rules do not state that you can't have other utilities running at the same time (e.g. Benchmate). Quote
keeph8n Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 ^^^^^^^ a screenshot is a screenshot Quote
unityofsaints Posted September 17, 2019 Posted September 17, 2019 10 hours ago, bigblock990 said: Thanks everyone! @unityofsaints You are missing the point. Benchmate is the the way forward. For Benchmate to be "the way forward" it needs to be open-sourced instead of relying on 1 or 2 developers. As it stands it's a handy tools for some special cases like Geekbench on Win 10. Quote
_mat_ Posted September 17, 2019 Posted September 17, 2019 I have no problem to make BenchMate open source. I just doubt that there would many advantages, instead it give insight on how to trick it. Especially the HWBOT submission and its mandatory requirement to store zhe encryption key inside the executable would be easily visible. But I am open to discuss this further! My idea was to give the source code away to an overclocker I deem trustworthy to push this forward even without me available/alive. 1 Quote
Goku is Gei Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 I can see why people said dual core is no longer suitable for gaming, even this dual core world record cpu can only reach 771cb, while most mainstream modern cpu are already 1kcb+ on r15 1 Quote
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