Crew Leeghoofd Posted June 23, 2019 Crew Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) OFFICIAL SUPPORT THREAD AT THIS LINK! K maybe not a bad idea to do a small competition with only allowing submissions done/monitored by Matt's latest release of the 0.8.1 release click here (click link to download) With version 0.8.0 Scores can be submitted straight via the Benchmate Tool (Internet required ofc) or via the screenshot (RESULT FOLDER) Thus manual submission via the compo page. Take note we are using Beta Benchmarks for the Compo!!! This implies we only can run the benchmarks currently integrated in the Benchmate suite: CB R11.5 CB R15 CB R20 Geekbench 3 & 4 SuperPi GPUPI 3.2 / 3.333 Ofcourse to thoroughly test out any bugs it might be better to opt for Windows 10 only. This compo might be a solid test to see if we can finally allow newcomers to bench on the latest Microsoft OS even with older Intel or any AMD hardware out there. Limitations to participate are to use= Pre-Skylake Intel hardware in the DDR2/3 Intel Compo SKylake and Newer Platforms in the DDR4 Intel Compo AMD platform. (For AMD I hope many Ryzen and Threadripper users will chime in) in the appropriate DDR2/3 and DDR4 Compo Any pointers or heads up? This new software is the thing OC needs to stay alive and kicking... Microsoft couldn't care less about us and AMD has a special way of approaching things too ? OFFICIAL SUPPORT THREAD AT THIS LINK! Edited July 18, 2019 by Leeghoofd 7 2 Quote
keeph8n Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 I’m definitely in. Have to get with Matt on what is causing my current errors Quote
Noxinite Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 Definitely a good idea. This tool is amazing if it fixs the RTC issues, but I don't think it should ever become required for all submissions (except competitions of course). 1 Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted June 24, 2019 Author Crew Posted June 24, 2019 I guess for AMD it will become mandatory if you want to run win8/8.1 or 10 1 Quote
_mat_ Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 Let's do this! I am working on 0.7.2 right now, fixes a few bugs and also has a few improvements. CINEBENCH and Geekbench integration was reworked as well. 3 1 Quote
keeph8n Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: I guess for AMD it will become mandatory if you want to run win8/8.1 or 10 That sounds fantastic. Let’s me run a stripped W10 instead of messing with a W7 Quote
unityofsaints Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 Would be cool to start this comp after 7 July so things can get really interesting on the AMD side with next gen Ryzen Quote
GtiJason Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 Sounds like a fun way to abuse my G3258, I'm in Quote
Crew Bilko Posted June 25, 2019 Crew Posted June 25, 2019 Count me in as well, I've got both AM4 and TR4 so can give this a real good workout Quote
yosarianilives Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 I like this compo, perhaps I won't be so lazy for this one as with most. Quote
yosarianilives Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 17 hours ago, unityofsaints said: Would be cool to start this comp after 7 July so things can get really interesting on the AMD side with next gen Ryzen I second this 1 Quote
ObscureParadox Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 or simply just allow it in since it's more of a tester competition and nothing overly serious. Quote
yosarianilives Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, ObscureParadox said: or simply just allow it in since it's more of a tester competition and nothing overly serious. If it's not for pts anywhere then there's no problem with allowing cpus that launch after comp start, if it's for pts then people will complain about their early bench sessions being beat by "unfair cheating" because people don't like to be beat. Quote
ozzie Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 tell me what "unfair cheating" is , cheating is cheating in any shape or form no matter what is involved 1 Quote
Members GeorgeStorm Posted June 26, 2019 Members Posted June 26, 2019 Looking forward to seeing some results with it, as Nox said would be a great way to allow people to use W10, but also agree wouldn't want it needed for every submission on hwbot, otherwise goodbye XP. Quote
yosarianilives Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 7 hours ago, ozzie said: tell me what "unfair cheating" is , cheating is cheating in any shape or form no matter what is involved I'm differentiating "unfair cheating" vs actual cheating with qoutes, I'm referring to people being butthurt because someone beats them with newer hw. Quote
Lucky_n00b Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) In for this, AMD is coming with new platform too as well so this is definitely the right time for it (after 7/7 that is). As for the benchmark I would suggest: - Cinebench R20 & R15 (R20 is the newer, we might as well test these if BenchMate would be mandatory for future. As for R15 it is pretty common already so it is OK for checking something with global points. I'm not too keen on R11.5) - Maybe do single-core CInebench (R20) too, just for fun to check Single Core performance. - Geekbench 3 & 4 Multi-core - Pi 32M (not sure if we should do full out or limited clock to check the clock verification feature?) (GPUPI already thought as 'secure' for win10, so I'm not sure if that's needed?) For limitation, I agree to focus on the windows 10-only to check stuff. Not sure about how to make the class/category. Maybe divide the competition by socket on Non-windows 10 friendly platforms? - AM4 (all) - TR4 (all) - LGA2011 v3 Haswell & Broadwell - LGA115x Minus Skylake+ gen (not sure should be open for all or just specific generation) Edited June 26, 2019 by Lucky_n00b 3 Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted June 26, 2019 Author Crew Posted June 26, 2019 Most important here is to check if playing with the busclock jields "bugged" scores and that the security feature of the benchmate can be thoroughly stressed by our community members... 1 Quote
ground Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 Well, then lets allow 1366 and older even if its not the most sensible platform to bench with win 10 Quote
bigblock990 Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 If the goal is to put benchmate to a thorough test, then why not allow any/all platforms? Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted June 26, 2019 Author Crew Posted June 26, 2019 because they don't have RTC bug and I don't want to wade through a gazillion subs that I don't need to check (normally) 1 1 Quote
ozzie Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 12 hours ago, yosarianilives said: I'm differentiating "unfair cheating" vs actual cheating with qoutes, I'm referring to people being butthurt because someone beats them with newer hw. lol ,mute point, there is no difference between unfair cheating and actual cheating , ( still cheating whatever way its looked at ) same damn thing, nothing to do with newer hardware, youd expect newer hardware to beat the older anyway hardware, so another mute point, anyway im not gunna go back and forth with it, you have your opinion on it , i have mine, that fact is when cheats get found out the subs get booted and they get booted, best scaenario is ... well leave it at that ☺️!!! Quote
Aleslammer Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 I'll play, have TR4 & AM4 although the AM4 parts are still on the self waiting on cooler weather. Quote
yosarianilives Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 10 hours ago, ozzie said: lol ,mute point, there is no difference between unfair cheating and actual cheating , ( still cheating whatever way its looked at ) same damn thing, nothing to do with newer hardware, youd expect newer hardware to beat the older anyway hardware, so another mute point, anyway im not gunna go back and forth with it, you have your opinion on it , i have mine, that fact is when cheats get found out the subs get booted and they get booted, best scaenario is ... well leave it at that ☺️!!! You miss the point, "unfair cheating" = perceived cheats vs something that is legitimately a unfair. Quote
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