Popular Post der8auer Posted March 23, 2020 Popular Post Posted March 23, 2020 Hey there First of all I hope everybody out there is healty and safe during this difficult time we have all over the world! I read some strange rumours in some forums out there and received messages about the future of HWBOT. I'm wondering where some of this stuff comes from so I want to clarify things. I don't have to tell you that HWBOT is the niche inside the niche and therefore possible income and cooperations are difficult. In times where YouTube is such an easy marketing tool for companies and the reach is much higher than any website banners, websites such as HWBOT have a difficult time. The hosting costs of HWBOT with about 800-1000 EUR per month are exceeding the income from few competitions by far. After several years and I don't know how many thousand hours of work, Frederik had to make a cut to protect his own IT company. Offers were made to different companies such as ASUS or G.Skill but when I saw that I was worried about this plattform. This plattform turned me into who I am today and allowed me to do things I would've never imagined 10 or 15 years ago. So many awesome experiences of my life were linked to HWBOT. Starting from the first moments of extreme overclocking and the thrill of breaking records to events in Taiwan such as MOA or AOOC in Moscow. Once I heard about that this plattform might go in hands of the hardware industry I was worried about how it would turn out. Imagine how this website would look like if a mainboard vendor would own it? That's why I had a discussion with Eike (my business partner at Thermal Grizzly) to aquire HWBOT. We both are totally aware that we might never see the money back we "invested" in HWBOT which is absolutely fine and not our goal. Eike and me are luckily in a position where we can afford to keep HWBOT the way it is (yea yea and fix some bugs) without worrying about the money. We will try to do some cooperations such as the well known G.Skill competition to cover some of the hosting costs but that's it. HWBOT will be a completely independent company (HWBOT GmbH) and in no way linked to Thermal Grizzly. Honestly if we want exposure I can just book another video at Linus Tech Tips on YouTube and reach 1 Mio views in one week. As much as I love this website for the geeky place it is but marketing wise we have different strategies. The current state is that we applied for the company registration papers in Germany to start the HWBOT GmbH. However, due to Corona I have no idea when we can finish the company papers and when HWBOT will be fully transfered to us. Currently we have a kind of "hybrid mode" where we cover all running costs to keep HWBOT alive but Frederik still has full access. Only once we have the HWBOT GmbH (Ltd) registered and all data is transfered we will fully take over. You should not notice a difference when this happens. Things we will do: Keep the page almost (for changes see down below) the way it is Try to pay the core stuff or at least give compensation for hardware/LN2 (details will be discussed) Cooperation with Benchmate. It looks like a great software to us and makes it easy to validate scores. If it improves things we don't see why we should not cooperate with mat. I already spent few hours with him on the phone to discuss how we can make it as smooth as possible. We have the same opinion and goals and will try to find the best solution for the community HWBOT will stay free to use We have a coder who also did some stuff for Thermal Grizzly previously and he will spend about 1-2 working days per week on improving HWBOT. We plan to fix bugs which occur and improve some functions (admin panel for moderation for example) There are few things I want to change such as going back to reward all submissions with points so newcomers have more motivation. We might also change to a scheduled recalculation every 6-12h instead of instant recalculations to further reduce server load and costs. Otherwise we don't plan to have major changes. We just want to keep this website alive because it can really be an awesome place. If you have any concerns, ideas or whatever don't hesitat to ask or post. But I will ask you to act like adults. I'm not sure how Massman could deal with the insults of some over the years.... Thanks and stay safe! Roman 43 23 Quote
Splave Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 Sounds great! Thanks for saving this place. 1 Quote
qhfreddy Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 Very kind move of you Roman. I don't know whether the idea has been floated at all, but would there be a possibility to have an open donation box for users to help cover the costs of running the site/service? Quote
der8auer Posted March 23, 2020 Author Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, qhfreddy said: Very kind move of you Roman. I don't know whether the idea has been floated at all, but would there be a possibility to have an open donation box for users to help cover the costs of running the site/service? We talked about a Patreon for HWBOT but didn't come to a final conclusion yet. If more people are open to this it would definitely be an option. 10 Quote
Aleslammer Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 Have a couple other hobbies that take yearly or monthly dues, don't have a problem it. Thanks for the heads up!!! 1 Quote
MATT4CK Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 This is brilliant! Thanks Roman. When the world is falling apart it makes a huge difference seeing someone save part of it. 4 Quote
ozzie Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, der8auer said: We talked about a Patreon for HWBOT but didn't come to a final conclusion yet. If more people are open to this it would definitely be an option. i have asked for this quite a few times over the years but its always fallen on deaf ears, but thankyou roman for doing what youre doing and especially in this severely health and economically pressed hard time the world is facing and going through ?? Edited March 23, 2020 by ozzie Quote
mllrkllr88 Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 Awesome! The future is looking bright!! 1 Quote
PACE Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 Great news, I hope everything goes smoothly for everyone involved Quote
l0ud_sil3nc3 Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 Thanks Eike, Roman and to all the core staff that have kept wheels turning. 1 Quote
Cautilus Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 Fantastic news! Thanks for organising this Roman. Quote
zeropluszero Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 Did you buy it just to delete that deburner account? 8 Quote
Rauf Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) Thanks for your efforts! Patreon or something similar sounds good. Edited March 24, 2020 by Rauf Quote
FireKillerGR Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) Thanks Roman & Eike! ? In for Patreon Edited March 24, 2020 by FireKillerGR Quote
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